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7 Mountains Apologia

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Finishing up our series on what the Bible has to say about government, let’s talk about this new idea, 7-mountains. The basic concept is also called, in different circles, “the cultural mandate.”  Given the perspective of those I know, this is an important topic to discuss when we consider how we should interface with society and with government. So often, conservative Christians,  pentecostals especially, and women, just thought they should stay out of politics. By contrast, some fundamentalist Baptists or conservative Reformed folks seem to hold political views co-terminus with theology. Both groups have, in my hearing, questioned this 7 Mountain Mandate talk. On the other hand, my Spirit-filled educated friends are thrilled with the opening of the door to application of Christian life, of Spirit, and of Bible, to all of life. They often felt stifled and hemmed in in the lower middle class perspective of separation defined as not getting involved, and simply staying quiet in a corner.

I can hear people get offended as I state this clearly and precisely. Read it again. Admit it. The upper middle class, mainline folks were in charge of civics and politics in the 1950s and 1960s. Since then, increasingly the secularist and socialists have been in ascendancy. But in the ’50s and ’60s, conservative Christians eschewed both education and civic involvement. With the advent of the charismatic movement more educated people joined these churches and adopted this theology. That portion of the church expanded its market share steadily. At the same time, these churches, along with their SES segments, experienced great economic growth.

In this century, however, growth slowed, and communists (meaning authoritarian socialists) arose to prominence in the marketplace of ideas as in politics. Socialism took a stronger hold in the mainline churches. The most conservative churches split off, but struggled for direction, carrying with them more leftest ideas than they realized. At the same time, pentecostal churches fell back into their ways. Word of Faith continued to grow and are a home for middle class pentecostal/charismatics. The upper middle class tended to search for a home mostly in the Apostolic and Prophetic movements, precisely the sector most likely to accept the 7 Mountain Mandate. Why? because they needed faith direction for vocation and civic engagement.

Then, the question arose: is this Biblical? Because neither of the two promoters of the 7 Mountain Message are either theologians or professional sociologists (tho both have in-depth Bible knowledge, and tremendous practical insight (one in management and the other I judge as a pastoral sociologist) — and both have a great following among business and government leaders — no apologia has been made. Detractors have popped up. So, here is the answer: yes: The 7 Mountain Message is Biblical and theologically orthodox.

Listen, and I will tell  you why.

While the last post was about 10 days late because of technical issues with uploading to the podcast platform, this episode is about a month early. Normally, this would be our June installment of our study on what the Bible says about government and politics. However, coincidentally, Johnny and Elizabeth Enlow have been able to publish their long-awaited documentary. So, since I had this made, and was successful at getting it uploaded, I decided to go ahead and publish it.

Recommended: https://www.restore7.tv/biggodmovie/

Other links/background

https://lancewallnau.com/category/7-mountains/

Hmm, although posting more links always helps ranking, I think I will refrain from embarrassing the recent detractors.

Also, although I have in the past spent A LOT of time posting links to books in Amazon.com, since I can no longer shop there because I will not tolerate the forcing of Prime, alas. Anyway, both Wallnau and the Enlow s have books. Enjoy.

 

addition: Oh! Lance posted mention of “dominionism” today:

https://rumble.com/v41yqcz-the-religious-spirit-is-a-real-thing-and-its-fighting-the-next-revival.html?e9s=rel_v1_b

 

HIlter Sonship

The Churches’ Experience in Hitler’s Time : Losing or Finding Life

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This is the 3rd and last installment in our fullsome review of Erwin Lutzer’s Hitler’s Cross. In earlier episodes, we saw what Hitler’s intention way. He was being deception, pushing the church out of the picture. Most of the church cooperated. Some did not. They were called “The Confessing Church.” Many of those pastors couldn’t stay true once the Gestapo pressured them.

We talk about Neimoller and Bonhoeffer’s response. Neimoller went to the concentration camp, but was alive when the Allies liberated it. Bonhoeffer was executed weeks before Hitler died. What is so central about the Christian gospel that people would die for it?

Indeed, we are called to come and die. But those who lose their lives, find it. Those who saved it, lost it.

Let’s consider how this applies to us today. In similar situation.

No one more than those who aspire to being sons of God must think about this: both to avoid the fate of Hitler as well as to aspire to the fate of these saints who continued faithful to the confession of Jesus Christ.

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Cross-Used-Promote-Agenda/dp/B0BQWX416F/ref=sr_1_1?crid=11HQT4ZY69B04&keywords=hitler%27s+cross+erwin+lutzer&qid=1697326727&sprefix=lutzer+hitler%2Caps%2C270&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.com/When-Nation-Forgets-God-Lessons/dp/B09LRMW6DR/ref=sr_1_8?crid=2VGVZDKHZHTG1&keywords=lutzer&qid=1697326675&sprefix=lutzer%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-8

 

https://www.amazon.com/Bonhoeffer-Pastor-Martyr-Prophet-Spy/dp/B082DPN1KF/ref=sr_1_2?crid=31NGV79Y8K0O7&keywords=eric+metaxas&qid=1697326884&s=audible&sprefix=eric+met%2Caudible%2C137&sr=1-2

 

https://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Cross-Used-Promote-Agenda/dp/B0BQWX416F/ref=sr_1_1?crid=11HQT4ZY69B04&keywords=hitler%27s+cross+erwin+lutzer&qid=1697326727&sprefix=lutzer+hitler%2Caps%2C270&sr=8-1